We Really Don’t Have Free Will?: A Conversation with Robert M. Sapolsky (Episode #360)


SUMMARY:

Sam Harris discusses the implications of a life without free will with Robert Sapolsky, author and professor, following the death of Danny Kahneman.

IDEAS:

  • Free will is often defended based on personal intuition, despite scientific evidence.
  • Complexity and emergence in science do not necessarily imply free will.
  • Downward causation is a flawed concept for defending free will.
  • People’s desire for accountability may cloud their judgment on free will.
  • The psychological need to feel in control can lead to resistance against free will denial.
  • Intuition about free will persists despite understanding deterministic biology.
  • Epigenetics influences gene regulation but doesn’t grant free will.
  • Predictability in behavior does not equate to the existence of free will.
  • Randomness in systems doesn’t create space for free will, only unpredictability.
  • Understanding the absence of free will can be destabilizing for some individuals.
  • The concept of libertarian free will is widely felt but philosophically indefensible.
  • Compatibilism often shifts the conversation away from true free will.
  • Ethical and legal implications arise from beliefs about free will.
  • The brain’s complexity produces emergent properties without altering its parts.
  • The illusion of free will is deeply ingrained in human consciousness.
  • Downward causation from emergent properties to neurons is a misconception.
  • The brain’s response to abstract concepts is still grounded in physical processes.
  • Voluntary and involuntary behaviors remain distinct without free will.
  • Civilization and morality have neural correlates that are not magical.
  • The predictability of complex systems does not negate determinism.

INSIGHTS:

  • Intuition about free will persists despite clear scientific counterarguments.
  • Emergent properties in complex systems don’t change constituent parts’ nature.
  • Downward causation misconceptions stem from misunderstanding emergent complexity.
  • Epigenetics provides mechanisms for traits without granting free agency.
  • Unpredictability in behavior doesn’t imply the existence of free will.
  • The feeling of control is psychological, not evidence of free will.
  • Ethical considerations often conflate with philosophical arguments on free will.
  • The brain’s response to stimuli remains deterministic despite complexity.
  • Free will debates often overlook the deterministic nature of consciousness.
  • Accepting determinism requires rethinking accountability and ethics.

QUOTES:

  • “Life is short, even if you make it to 90, so let’s use the time wisely."
  • "Show me a neuron that has just acted free of history."
  • "It just feels like I’m exercising free will when I’m choosing to turn the light switch on."
  • "Emergence is the pathway to free will, relying on a type of downward causality that doesn’t exist."
  • "Once ants form an emergently complex society, individual ants can’t suddenly speak French."
  • "The amazing thing about complexity is once that happens, those little ants are still just as simplistic."
  • "People want to be held responsible for their actions if they know it’s wrong."
  • "If people stop believing in free will, there’ll be murderers running around; it would be sheer chaos."
  • "The notion that one could have done otherwise…is what people feel they have most of the time."
  • "The psychological satisfaction of punishing bad people is a strong human motivation."
  • "Understanding evil doesn’t require belief in libertarian free will."
  • "Punishment and reward as tools don’t necessitate free will."
  • "We didn’t even get to pick our souls."
  • "Epigenetics changes how genes function in different environments, not free will."
  • "The world is not predictable; the future was not set at the Big Bang.”

HABITS:

  • Subscribing to podcasts for continuous learning and intellectual engagement.
  • Offering scholarship programs for those who cannot afford content access.
  • Reflecting on mortality to appreciate the value of time and wisdom.
  • Engaging with diverse scientific perspectives to deepen understanding.
  • Reading non-fiction works like “Behave” and “A Primate’s Memoir” for insight.
  • Accepting scientific implications on topics like free will for personal growth.
  • Discussing complex topics like emergence and epigenetics for clarity.
  • Considering ethical and criminal justice implications in philosophical debates.
  • Recognizing the psychological impact of discussing destabilizing topics like free will.
  • Choosing alternative content when certain discussions become overwhelming.

FACTS:

  • Danny Kahneman, a notable figure, passed away at age 90.
  • Robert Sapolsky authored several non-fiction works including “Behave.”
  • Sapolsky is a professor at Stanford University and received a MacArthur Grant.
  • Free will discussions can be psychologically destabilizing for some individuals.
  • Libertarian free will is a widely held but indefensible belief.
  • Compatibilists like Dan Dennett argue for a socially beneficial concept of free will.
  • Emergent properties arise from simple components without altering their nature.
  • Epigenetics explains how genes function differently in various environments.
  • Unpredictability in systems arises from complexity and randomness, not free will.

REFERENCES:

  • The Making Sense podcast by Sam Harris
  • SamHarris.org for podcast subscriptions
  • Danny Kahneman’s work and legacy
  • Robert Sapolsky’s books: “Behave” and “A Primate’s Memoir”
  • Robert Sapolsky’s Stanford University profile
  • MacArthur Foundation Genius Grant
  • Dan Dennett’s views on compatibilism
  • The concept of libertarian free will
  • The New York Times as a source of impactful news

RECOMMENDATIONS:

  • Subscribe to Sam Harris’ podcast for full access to insightful conversations.
  • Read Robert Sapolsky’s books for a deeper understanding of human behavior.
  • Consider the implications of life without free will in personal ethics.
  • Explore the concept of emergent properties in complex systems for clarity.
  • Reflect on personal intuitions about free will versus scientific evidence.
  • Acknowledge the role of epigenetics in shaping behavior without implying freedom.
  • Understand the limitations of predictability in assessing determinism versus freedom.
  • Recognize the psychological challenges when confronting the illusion of free will.
  • Reevaluate societal norms around meritocracy in light of determinism insights.
  • Approach discussions on contentious topics like free will with openness to change.